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Manus Boyle was one of the passengers on the Royal Charter (see this letter about finding Manus Boyle) Hi, You website is just amazing. (See the article on Royal Charter) I wonder if you can help me. My wife's great great grandfather, Manus Boyle, was one of the passangers on the Royal Charter. He drowned with it. We know it from some family stories and at least one mention in an old letter. However, where can I see a list of the passangers and a list of the victims? What ever help and guidance you'll give me will be greatly appreciated. Thanks,
Thank you for your kind words, of the 498 passengers and crew in Royal Charter, only 39 All of the outward bound voyages to Australia can be traced, and a list of their passengers is available. But on her last voyage from Australia to Liverpool, the one where she was wrecked, I have as yet not been able to unearth her passenger list, but I have not given up the search. If I can find it, it will be passed on to you. Regards,
Hello to Gregory,
15 January, 2004
This is the source of our knowledge about Manus Boyle. His wife must have been notified of the disaster hence there must be some source, a list etc somewhere?????? I am also disappointed for not being able to locate any list of interested descendents of the victims, but I might have missed something in my search. So, whatever advice you can give me, many thanks. I know you are a very busy creative guy and I promise you not to bother you any more. Many thanks and again, a very productive Happy New Year Sincerely
The reply from Anne in the Archives at Anglesey. I have copied you on my next question to her. Perhaps Manus was listed as Maurice, & that is why we could not find him. Mac.
Mac, This is very very very exciting, it must be our Manus. I just sent you and Anne a note about it. A while ago while I was searching for Manus Boyle I did find out that several Manus Boyles were also called Maurice, so this is very possible. I dare to assume that since Manus is a very Irish name he might have introduced himself as Maurice. His wife, however, always called him by the name she really knew him, Manus. So one thing is very clear now, the archive in Anglesey does have some kind of a list. This is the first and only list of the victims I managed to find as of now. I am trying to get in touch with the author of The Golden wreck, Alexander McKee. I hope he is still with us. I found out from a distant family relative that Alexander McKee contacted the family here in the US while he was writing the book. It means that he had the name Manus (Maurice) Boyle, and better yet, he had information about his family and managed to contact them 100 years after the disaster. So, I am trying to trace Mr. McKee through the publisher of the book. This might prove to be a waste of time, but I am trying. Many thanks,
Attached is a site for Shipping arrivals Australia, click on the continue link, then on the next page go to arrivals. I think I have already searched for Manus without any success. In those days the main ports for departing ships to UK were Sydney and Melbourne. The Royal Charter sailed from Melbourne in 1859. Best regards, Mac.
Here is a book in the Library of Congress: How to Find Shipping and Immigration Records in Australia. Nunn, Cora, 4th.Edition. Pearce. ACT. 1999 The Call No is: CS2003N86 1999 Mac.
I discovered your site while browsing to find out if there is a list of passengers who were on the wreck of the Royal Charter in October 1859. If you know where such a list is available, I would appreciate having the information. Thanks. Sandra
I have spent an incredible amount of time on the net trying to find a passenger list for the last voyage made by the Royal Charter, but all to no avail. I have just established via an Archives located at Anglesey in Wales, that a passenger Manus ( or Maurice ) Boyle was one of those drowned on that fateful night she was wrecked off Moelfre Bay. But I am unable to furnish a passenger list for you, there must be such a list in existence, but all my persistence has yet to unearth it. However, should your efforts be rewarded, I would be grateful to have a copy of a passenger list. Best regards,
March 2004 Hello Josh, I I may have found Manus on a passenger list of the Royal Charter, via a gentleman in New Zealand, who just calls himself Bill. He contacted me a few days ago saying he had a Passenger list of the ship some 20 years old which had emanated from a friend in Melbourne, for whom he had done a good turn that long ago. The list is faded and hard to read , but I think on page 2 an entry under Boyle, listed as 26 years old and under occupation it reads Miner, must be our man. Bill is tied up with a family wedding until next week, but will print out page 2 and mail it to me. His interest in the Royal Charter stems from his father giving him his father's story of how the family should have been rich, but for the wrecking of the ship, back in 1859, a relative was named Milliken was on board. So, we await further news. I have had surgery on my left knee, a badly torn cartlidge, plus much arthritis, described by the surgeon as a very tired old knee, My response was What do you expect for an 82 year old much worked knee? It was thumped by a hockey ball back in 1952, that started the rot. I am truly restricted, and it will be at least another two months of suffering, so he tells me. Trust you are well, Dear Mac, You are truly amazing. Million thanks and much luck with your knee surgery. My home address is:
May, 2004 Josh, I am just home after spending two hours at the Public Record Office and Victorian Archives here in Melbourne. I have finally found the repositery for outward bound ship passenger lists in the 1800's I needed to learn a new skill, ie. how to use a Microfishe machine that takes a roll of records on film and allows you to scan them, focus, and then when you find the right frame, print out as a hard copy the record. I had to find the roll of film for outgoing ships from Melbourne during July-December 1859. put it in the machine, and roll it forward until I came across wait for it, at last, the ROYAL CHARTER under Captain Thomas Taylor, this 2,100 ton vessel bound for Liverpool, Taylor certified :
The number of passengers and the length of the voyage were left blank. Then follows the name and Descriptions of Passengers. Under these headings: Port of Embarkation. Names of Passengers. Age of each Adult of 12 years and upwards. Children between 1 and 12 years. Infants. Married. Male. Female. Profession, Occupation, or Calling of State whether English, Scotch, or Irish. Port at which Passengers have contracted to land. Passenger. E. I. S. F. On page two of this list at the 4th. line appears M. Boyle. Single Aged 26. Miner. and an entry under English. ( they appear to have that wrong as he was Irish.) Josh, all the agony and hard work over a very long time have at last paid the dividend we wanted, I will air mail your hard copy of these two A3 pages tomorrow. All the best.
Also, I received a permission from the Minister of the Church in Molfre to put a grave marker for Manus Maurice Boyle near the monument for the victims of the Royal Charter. He is really very helpful. he also contacted a stone mason who will do it for me, great. June, 2004 Josh, I have today airmailed to your home address the Shipping Lists for the Royal Charter. Please let me know when you get them. My 18 year old Grand Daughter Amelia tells me your surname in German means book, her Dad is German. She asks me if you have any German in your background, nosy people Grand Daughters. Enjoy your upcoming visit to Anglesey and Moelfre, I always did relish that area of the world in the several times I have visited there over 60 years. We have just booked to fly to Vienna thence to Milan in September, go on two separate 7 day cruises in the Mediterranean, the first in a new ship to launch next month the Opera, go overland Genoa/Venice. Take the second 7 day cruise in the Lirica, returning to Venice for a night, then fly to Vienna, train to Budapest for three days, train back to Vienna and fly home. All up away just over three weeks, this is probably my last hurrah with any world travel. We will still plan to get around our own large continent, and maybe back to New Zealand once more. Best wishes.
The list is based on mail that they received in Molefre from Australia after the disaster. In other words, they must have received the list of passengers and printed it. Near the names they marked if the person was identified prior to burial. Unfortunatly most of them were not identified. Maurice Boyle is one of those with no identification. In other words, they knew that he perished with the Royal Charter from the list they received from Australia but could not have identified his body. They do describe many of the bodies with some minimum information such as hight, possible age or special marks on the body. Also tell her (did I ever tell you this story), that my older daughter Nomi Eve published a very succesful first novel about 4 years ago. The title in English was The Family Orchard by Nomi Eve. The book was translated to numerous languages and its German Title is Das Buch Der Liebe (The Book of Love). The book is a fiction based on the history of seven generations of my family. In it my daughter is quoting my family research and than add stories about the various generaions. Some of her stories are correct and some are fictions or a mixture of both.
10 August 2004 Manus Maurice Boyle. 1833-1859 An unidentified victim of Royal Charter. Placed by the Fay Family Canon Graham who help me so much is the nicest person. He is truly amazing. He asked that I will bring several copies of the passengers lists. I copied the pages you sent me. As you recall, they are not that clear. However, you also sent me an enlarged version of the first two pages. how did you do it? Did you enlarge it directlly from the microfish machine? I would like very much to have the complete list that clear so I can give it to Canon Loveluck. I am sure that he would like to have all the names listed somewhere. Possibly on the Church's website. I will keep you posted about our trip and our experience in Moelfre and will send you pictures etc. You are a major player in this event. Many thanks
I enlarged the 2 pages I sent from the microfish machine, and photocopied them at the National Archives. To do the whole passenger will take a long time, that I do not have right now, but in due course, I will try to do that for you, so you can sent them to the Church Canon eventually, and we can add the whole list to AHOY. |
