German submarines sailing to Japan in WW2?
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And I love it!
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I will be exploring the site in detail over the next several weeks and really looking forward to it!
I am especially interested in submarine traffic between Germany and Japan
I know about the Japanese "golden sub", but are there more? How about German subs going to Japan?
You have probably already covered this, I need to get up to speed on your site
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Thank you for your kind words and greetings, Terry my web master in Atlata Georgia and I are gratified by your compliment.
I have only explored the Japanese Golden Submarine (see "I-52 - Japan's Golden Submarine") on her way to Germany when she was clobbered, and have not done anything on the two way trade between Japan and Germany vis submarines. Perhaps I should take a look at that aspect of WW2.
Below is a brief note about the U-boats used in that regard, and the ill fated voyage of U-234.
Thanks for your reply
I know you have "a lot on your plate" and maybe there is very little here, but I have long been in wonderment of how the Japanese and Germans may have communicated their plans and objectives and transferred goods and services. Depending on how you sail, it is a long way between the two countries
Reading of the golden subs 21,000 mile range amazed me! I wonder how much of that was surface time?
What items did they trade?
Why was Japan sending gold to Germany? Repaying a debt?
I saw the comments about the uranium shipment...does that suggest possible German or Japanese Atomic warheads? What else do you use uranium for (in 1945?)
Don't mean to dominate your time
Of course the Japanese Type C3 submarines were large, some 2,564 tons,and were designed to hump cargo.
Germany needed raw materials unavailable in domestic Europe such as Rubber ( a real priority in any shipments from Japan, picked up in the old Dutch East Indies ) medicine like quinine, oils and fats. The gold would be to pay for products shipped back to Japan.
When I was in the light cruiser HMAS Adelaide, in 1942 in the Indian Ocean we ran into the German Blockade Runner Ramses, she was carrying 4,000 tons of rubber, quinine, oils such as whale oil, fish oil, lubricating oil, fats, and the luxury of tea.
We sank her combined with the scuttling charges the Germans set off before abandoning ship, we stood off about 10,000 yards, not wanting to emulate HMAS Sydney, sunk by the Raider Kormoran in 1941, by going in too close.
On Ramses' stern was a large gun, but to our suprise it was not fired in the action, as the ship went down, this gun floated off, merely a wooden one fitted in Japan to give the allusion she was armed, The Germans rowed up to us in their lifeboats, and as we were hoisting them inboard, when up swam both a dog and a pig from Ramses.
The Captain ordered " Get that dog and pig on board " thus pointing out our priority in the rescue operation.
Amongst those rescued were about 10 Allied ship Captains POW's after their respective ships had fallen to various German Armed Raiders, now they were freed, and their former free masters took over their previous role. Oh! the fortunes of WAR.
From Germany to Japan, technology such as the V2 Rocket project, two jet ME-262 Jet aircraft were in one U-Boat shipment, but it was sunk, uranium oxide for Japan's nuclear project. I think torpedoes may have gone to Japan, but then their own Long Lance Torpedo, a 24 inch diameter monster, was in my view, the best torpedo produced by any country in WW2.
Jack I hope these few notes combined with the E-Mail I sent may give you a feel of this interesting interchange of goods and services across great distances in WW2.
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